Progress Report:  14 January 2002
14 January 2002:

The Norwegian and Czechoslovakian-Bohemian research is getting very interesting and complicated. 

Norwegian:  I am becoming more and more convinced that Peder Hansen Frodal (m. Siri Jensdatter Dyren) is a brother or uncle of Ole Hansen, husband of Ragna Juulsdatter.  Ole Hansen and Ragna Juulsdatter are the grandparents of my grandfather, Helfred Matson.   This Frodal or Frodahl family keeps popping up at christenings and marriages.  Perhaps it is dangerous to conclude this without having parish record proof.  So, I will continue to look for clues and proof of this possibility.

Another interesting feature, is that I have had two new and recent contacts, both who are well removed from Strum now, but whose relatives, or spouses relatives are from Strum, and of the Frodal connection.  Because the Frodahl name is a farm in Norway and because Peder Hansen and Siri Jensdatter at one time owned the farm, I may in time be able to prove this family connection. 

Thanks to the Toten Lag (Toten Association) that I am a member of, we know that Syver Madsen had two more sisters:  Oline Madsdatter and Helene Marie Madsdatter HAAJEN.  Oline immigrated to America in 1881 with Syver Madsen's wife, Helene Olsdtr (Helene Hansen Bjerkebakken), and Helene's children.  Syver's sister, Helene Marie Madsdatter, HAAJEN also came to America.  A third sibling, who we knew of, but not of his birth, Lars Madsen NOKLEBYE, married Oline Andersdatter HOEL in 1855. Check out the
Toten Bulletin article for the whole story.

Czech-Bohemian:  My wife's (Dianne) side of the family is getting interesting by the day.  We believe, of course, that Dianne's Grandmother and Grandfather Lisko (Anton Lisko & Mary Fisher), came from russian Crimea to America in 1905.  That is documented.  Other than ship manifests, we have no record of this Lisko (LISKA) family on Crimea.  We are fairly certain, however, that the family was on Crimea for more than one, maybe two or three or more generations, before coming from Bohemia.  Bohemians, and probably Germans too, continued to hold to their heritages although they were far from home.  The next evidence we have of the LISKAs is in Rastadt, South Russia.  If MSGR Aberle of North Dakota had the correct family in his book, then they are in Rastadt in 1811.  And on that record that give an origin of Nodendorf, Moravia.  Researchers, Czech and Crimea, tell me that Nodendorf has always been in Austria and never Moravia.  In Rastadt, this family was of the original settlers, most except for the LISKAs were German.  Is it possible that Nodendorf, Moravia was an origin given for convenience purposes?  Nodendorf is a very small spot on the earth.  Could they have dreamed up that community name if they had not lived there?  We continue to try to fill this gap between 1905 and 1811.

Fred Matson